Feedback from GM Tech2 with CANdi TIS Works for GM/SAAB/OPEL/SUZUKI/ISUZU/Holden

I’ve got one and it works perfect on my 08

 

A few of us have them….. works great! Can also get to things like the rear air ride (if yours has that) which no other tool can deal with.

 

That being said I’ve seen on other forums where some people have major issues with their clones. Best I can say is I got my GM Tech2 from obd2tool and it works perfect.

 

It will come in handy sometimes. Now figuring out how to use all of the functionality will take a bit too. You can pretty much get right into diagnostics and whatnot pretty easy though. Programming takes a bit more as you will need to either install TIS2000 or pay for a short subscription to the ACDelco TIS system. TIS2000 is a pretty old program but does still have updates and whatnot for some things in our H2’s. The tricky bit is it runs on Windows XP. There is tons of info online about ways of getting that software installed and working though. The Tech2 will also come in handy for other GM vehicles as well and can give you a lot more info that most any other scan tool.

 

I’m pretty sure this one…. That is the same one I got a couple of years ago.

 

GM Tech 2 Feather:
1. Multi-langauge:English, Italian, French, Portuguese, German, Spainish, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Chinese
2. Update: via 32MB Software Card, when there is newer version, you can just buy new card to update
3. Year Coverage of Diagnosis:From 1992 to 2013, With Help of Tis2000 Software, It Can Do Programming for Cars Before Year 2007
4. Our GM TECH2 comes with with TIS2000 Software(CD)

 

Tech2 for GM Software Version:
GM           English 33.004  (Support Cars from 1991-2014)
SAAB       English 148
OPEL      English 180 (Support Cars from 1997-2014)
Holden    English 149 (Support Cars from 1999-2013) (For North American Area Only)
English  147.000  (Support Cars from 1999-2012 )(For Australia)
SUZUKI  English 01.210.020
ISUZU     English  CAN-BUS V180 (CAN-BUS support car models after 2010)
K-Line  11.680    1996-2014 (K-line support car models from 1996 to 2014)

How to install TIS2000 TIS2Web GlobalTIS for TECH 2

This is Trollhattan’s contribution for those interested in playing with a Tech 2 Scan Tool, here’s a little info regarding the software requirements once you’ve got your hands on a Tech 2 handset.
Firstly, I’m by no means an expert on this having only recently got this up and running myself, but I think that’s the tricky part. I’d welcome comments on where this post can be improved/altered etc. Most of the information is already out there on various boards/forums but it would be nice to try to bring it together for us with a purely Saab interest.
For those who don’t know, the Tech 2 unit (handset) can be used to interrogate the various management modules on the car (ECU) to report status, fault codes and perform manual activation and monitoring in the event of fault occurrences/engine management light occurrences. This in itself is incredibly useful, but it is also possible to reprogram modules within the car to change various functions and add or replace faulty modules and programme keys. Whilst the diagnosis side can be performed standalone, to be able to actually change settings on the car, Tech 2 ‘Security Access’ is required, which means activating the Tech 2 handset via PC software.
The original Tech 2 handsets were produced by Vetronix/Bosch and were used across the GM range. Therefore, the Tech 2 unit can be used on a wide array of cars but you must have the correct model software loaded on the removable PCMCIA card. This is what turns the Tech 2 into a Saab Tech 2. (If you have mates with GM/Suzuki etc cars, you can do diagnosis on them as well by just grabbing the appropriate software card.)
The PC software also adds other functionality such as being able to update the Tech 2 software, the car ECU software, print-outs of ECU data and additional diagnostic services – I believe the TIS2Web actually includes schematic diagrams and other WIS (workshop) info, but I have yet to investigate this.
So, for the software itself, there are two options.
1. TIS2000
2. TIS2Web/GlobalTIS
TIS2000

If you get a clone, this generally comes with a couple of TIS2000 CDs/DVDs. However, these are generally NAO (North American Operations) and do not include any UK/European Saab models. In fact the only Saab this will work with is a 9-7x which was a GM US-built SUV – anyone got one of these???  Anyway, the crucial point is that this software only supports models up to 2007/8 (which is probably good enough for most of us) so if you’ve a later model you’ll need to use TIS2Web (see below). But as I said, this software as supplied does not include Saab models, so to run it successfully:
a) Download Saab TIS2008-2. This is the update disc you need to turn the GM application into something useful. You can find it if you’re patient…  Best to burn the image to a CD.
b) Install the GM TIS2000 application (needs to be Windows, 32-bit operating system). If supplied with a clone, there are normally two discs. One is the app, the other is the GM update disc, which is not required. If this is the case, install the first disc only but don’t run up the application on completion. If you didn’t get it with a clone, you can get a copy with the USB dongle for about £15 (see e) below). If prompted to select a registration method, select USB Key and OK the prompts.
c) Insert the SaabTIS2008-2 update disc (or mount the drive) into the same drive you installed the original GM TIS2000 application. This is important as the application will only look for updates at the same drive letter (i.e D:) that was used for installation.
d) Start TIS2000 from the desktop icon/start menu and OK it when it asks to do the update. When the update is finished, you’ll have a Saab 2008-2 installation.
e) All that is now required is to activate the software to get security access (enable Tech 2 programming). To do this you’ll need a USB key and patch available from the same sources as the clone Tech 2 units. These are around £15 and come with the TIS2000 GM software, or may even be supplied with the unit.
TIS2Web or GlobalTIS

TIS2Web is essentially an updated version of TIS2000 with some additional functionality (I’ve yet to play properly with it). Some may say this is the preferred option as it’s backwards compatible with earlier models and covers up to MY2012. The basic features are borrowed from TIS2000 though. Only disadvantage is it’s a bit trickier to get it working.
a) Acquire a copy of the Saab TIS2Web software. Again, this needs to be the Saab version. You can pay less than a tenner for this on the auction site, or you can find it on the internet if you look.
b) Install the software. This takes a little time and, unlike TIS2000 which allows much functionality without activation, you can’t do anything with TIS2Web until you’ve activated it.
c) Open the TIS2Web application. The application runs in a web browser so will open your default browser. This can take some time to open.
d) Once you’ve got to the registration page, you need to enter dealer information. This can be gobbledegook but I think you need to fill all the fields. Save this and then go to step e).
e) Click on the Email/Fax registration. This will generate a PDF which you should save. The important stuff is the Request ID and the Software Key.
f) To get your activation code, you need to be nice to members on one of a couple of auto diagnostic forums (unless you know someone with a keygen for this). Searching the net for this sort of stuff should bring them up as top search matches. You’ll need to join the forum, introduce yourself and politely request a code. Don’t upset them, they’re helping us out and there’s a bunch of knowledgeable people on there so no harm in being a member.
g) Once you have the code, enter it and activate TIS2Web. You’re done.
Faultfinding the TIS2Web install.

You may well have a couple of issues getting the software running initially. If your web browser refuses to connect to the TIS2Web service, it’s likely that one of the two GlobalTIS services are not running. To fix this, open the ‘services’ console either by
Start>Run and type “services.msc”
OR
Right-click ‘My Computer” select ‘Manage’ and drill down to the services icon on the left pane.
There are two services that should be running and they’ve got obvious names, something like GlobalTIS and TC6 (not near my TIS PC at the moment) and sit next to each other in the services list. In the information pane they should say ‘started’. If not, right-click and select ‘start’. If this fails with an error, try modifying the registry key below.
To open registry editor Start>Run regedit BE CAREFUL MODIFYING THE REGISTRY – YOU CAN REALLY SCREW YOUR PC UP!!!!!
In the left pane, expand the keys until you find the following
HKLM\Software\Apache Software Foundation\Procrun2.0\Global TISTC6\Parameters\Java\JvmMx
Change the value of this key from 0X0000044 to 0X00000200 and exit the registry. Try to restart the service – you should find it now works. Don’t ask me why, I got this fix from another forum – fair play to the guy who found it.
Tech 2 Hardware Issues

It’s widely reported that the manufacturing quality of some of the clone units can be much lower than the originals and there are reports of issues. I found that the flat grey ethernet cable supplied with my unit was faulty and caused me much confusion until I threw it out and replaced it with a standard network cable. You can check you have RS232 comms using the GM TIS2000 install and going into the Auto Scanner Tool Tech 2 View option. Don’t mess about with serial port settings etc as if there is a physical connection there it will work without interference. Only pins 4 and 5 of the RJ45 RS232 socket are actually used. The units are also supplied with a loopback adaptor so they can be tested internally.
Occasionally you may find the Tech 2 doesn’t connect to the car. Check your connections are secure and reset the VCI module (the thing in the base of the handset held in by the plastic release button).
Wow, quite a long post. I’ll add more if necessary. Let me know how you guys get on. Please remember that YOU CAN REALLY BREAK YOUR CARS REPROGRAMMING THE ECUS so be extremely careful, ensure good battery voltage and good connections while uploading data to the ECU. Save what’s on there first before you make any major changes.
Again, I’m very new to this myself but thought I’d put this here for like-minded Saab nuts who want to get involved with this stuff. I’m sure there are others on the forum who have much more knowledge and experience with the actual programming and diagnostics.
For now, I’m happy to have disabled the nagging seatbeat chime (am I the only person who likes to let their car warm up before driving off?) and altered the boot lock logic so it doesn’t lock itself at every available opportunity. Oh, and I’ve activated the zap sound so I know it’s been locked.
Be careful, have fun.
Cheers!!!!
P.S I have no affiliations with any of the sites/software etc just spent a long time getting this working and wanted to share it to save others the hassle.
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Free download GM TECH 2 PATHING DOCUMENT

Here is the GM Tech 2 Scanner PATHING DOCUMENT that every TECH 2 Owner should have. You work BACKWARDS from what you want to see.

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See the attach PDF Document:

Look at MISFIRE in the chart and on the Tech2 Go to Special Functions, Powertrain and then misfire graphic

Misfire Graphic – Engine > Engine Controls > Special Functions > Powertrain Control Module
Misfire Graphic – Powertrain > Special Functions
Misfire Graphic – Powertrain > Special Functions > Special Functions (PCM)

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2009 Chevrolet HHR key fob program Tech 2 china clone done!

Success! Have tested Tech 2 clone for 2009 Chevrolet HHR key fob!

The detail… Here you go.
Install the GM Tech 2 scan tool
Turn ON the ignition with the engine OFF
Power On the Scan Tool
Hit Enter
Main Menu > F0: DIAGNOSTICS
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Vehicle identification – Model Year > (9) 2009
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Vehicle identification – Product Type > Passenger Car
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Vehicle identification – Product Make > (1) Chevrolet
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Vehicle identification – Product Line > A
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Diagnostics > F1: Body
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Body> F5: Remote Control Door Lock Receiver
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Module Setup > F1: Program Key Fobs
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Program Key Fobs > F0: Invalidate all key fobs
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Instructions:
The procedure will replace the previously programmed key fob with the key fob requiring programming.

(Follow Instructions, if it don’t work repeat entire procedure)
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All desired key fobs must be present.

When the first key fob is programmed, the module will erase the rest of the slots.

The module will fill slots until [Done] or [Exit] is selected.

Note: Only select [Start] once. If the procedure is started again, the control module will start over.

Job’s done!

This was my order of GM Tech2 scan tool with TIS2000 software:

This is how GM Tech 2 looks out of the box:

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Turned on:

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The following 3 paragraphs are what I mail to obd2tool.com:
I tested device and it works well. Problem is the screen. I believe for return I would have to send back and pay for shipping. This would take a long time and I have work to do using the tool.
Right now I am using a laptop connected so I can see the full screen

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I would rather do partial refund or try replacing the screen myself.
Will you do a partial refund?
Can you send or help me find a replacement screen?
I have been happy so far with obd2tool.com so far. The price, service and shipping speed was good.
I hope we can reach a positive solution.

Finally, obd2tool.com ship me a new package.

Just want to let you know, I finally took the time to really test out the replacement I was sent and it appears to work perfectly.

One small issue is that I was sent a Car Diagnostic Tool GM PC Card and not a Saab one. I tried to write the GM Card in my laptop to Saab software but I ended up damaging the card. It was my fault. I know that I could have contacted you for help and you would have taken care of me.

I was able to find another Saab Card and get it working so I am very happy now. I do not need any more help.

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GM Tech2 Review Reached a positive solution

This was my order of GM Tech 2 Scan Tool with TIS2000 software:

Ship to: United States

This is how GM Tech 2 looks out of the box:

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Turned on:

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The following 3 paragraphs are what I mail to obd2tool.com:
I tested device and it works well. Problem is the screen. I believe for return I would have to send back and pay for shipping. This would take a long time and I have work to do using the tool.

Right now I am using a laptop connected so I can see the full screen

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I would rather do partial refund or try replacing the screen myself.

Will you do a partial refund?

Can you send or help me find a replacement screen?

I have been happy so far with obdii365.com so far. The price, service and shipping speed was good.

I hope we can reach a positive solution.

Finally, obd2tool.com ship me a new package.

Just want to let you know, I finally took the time to really test out the replacement I was sent and it appears to work perfectly.

One small issue is that I was sent a GM PC Card and not a Saab one. I tried to write the GM Card in my laptop to Saab software but I ended up damaging the card. It was my fault. I know that I could have contacted you for help and you would have taken care of me.

I was able to find another Saab Card and get it working so I am very happy now. I do not need any more help.

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My order of GM Tech2 Diagnostic Scanner with TIS2000 Software

This was my order of GM Tech2 Diagnostic Scanner with TIS2000 Software:

Order Date: Jan 1, 2019
Ship to: United States

This is how GM Tech2 looks out of the box:

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Turned on:

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The following 3 paragraphs are what I mail to OBD2TOOL:
I tested device and it works well. Problem is the screen. I believe for return I would have to send back and pay for shipping. This would take a long time and I have work to do using the tool.

Right now I am using a laptop connected so I can see the full screen

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I would rather do partial refund or try replacing the screen myself.
Will you do a partial refund?
Can you send or help me find a replacement screen?
I have been happy so far with OBD2TOOL so far. The price, service and shipping speed was good.
I hope we can reach a positive solution.

Finally, OBD2TOOL ship me a new package.

Just want to let you know, I finally took the time to really test out the replacement I was sent and it appears to work perfectly.

One small issue is that I was sent a GM PC Card and not a Saab one. I tried to write the GM Card in my laptop to Saab software but I ended up damaging the card. It was my fault. I know that I could have contacted you for help and you would have taken care of me.

I was able to find another Saab Card and get it working so I am very happy now. I do not need any more help.

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GM MDI Clone Scan Tool Unboxing Review and Setup ACDelco TDS Intro

This article goes thru unboxing and setup of the best quality GM Multiple Diagnostic Interface (MDI) clone / replica example, comparison with the prior generation GM Tech2 scan tool, and how to reflash (recover) the MDI device firmware and configure the settings using the Bosch MDI Manager for Windows 7 and up, and finally an intro overview of the ACDelco TIS2Web / TDS website subscription options / features.

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The GM MDI replaced the Tech2 as the J2534 dealership scan tool starting with the 2008 model year, though there was some overlap with existing models thru 2013 when the Tech2 was finally no longer supported for new vehicles. For new models introduced from 2010 and later, the GM MDI or MDI 2 are the only diagnostic and calibration programming tools utilized at your GM dealer.

The MDI is not compatible with the legacy DVD based TIS2000 and only works with TIS2Web online, where you can use either SPS or the Global Diagnostic System (GDS) 2 online software. You can also subscribe to the Tech2Win software at www.acdelcotds.com which is a Tech2 emulator for working on vehicles prior to the 2008 model year in lieu of a physical Tech2 tool.

The reviewed Car Scanner MDI knock-off / clone / replica tool has a S/N of 22129579 (all of them from this factory have the same serial number) and supports all Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, GMC, Hummer, Opel, Vauxhall, Isuzu, Saab, Daewoo and Holden makes and models of the applicable years. I purchased it on obd2tool.com

How to Bleed ABS on Corvette with GM Tech II

Bleeding ABS on Corvette with GM Tech 2 by following the next procedure.

Perform a manual or pressure bleeding procedure. If the desired brake pedal height results are not achieved, perform the automated bleed procedure below.
The procedure cycles the system valves and runs the pump in order to purge the air from the secondary circuits normally closed off during normal base brake operation and bleeding. The automated bleed procedure is recommended when air ingestion is suspected in the secondary circuits, or when the BPMV has been replaced.

Automated Bleed Procedure
Notice: The Auto Bleed Procedure may be terminated at any time during the process by pressing the EXIT button. No further Scan Tool prompts pertaining to the Auto Bleed procedure will be given. After exiting the bleed procedure, relieve bleed pressure and disconnect bleed equipment per manufacturer’s instructions. Failure to properly relieve pressure may result in spilled brake fluid causing damage to components and painted surfaces.
1. Raise the vehicle on a suitable support.
2. Remove all four tire and wheel assemblies.
3. Inspect the brake system for leaks and visual damage. Refer to Brake Fluid Loss or Symptoms – Hydraulic Brakes. Repair or replace as needed.
4. Inspect the battery state of charge.
5. Install a scan tool.
6. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
7. With the scan tool, establish communications with the EBCM. Select Special Functions. Select Automated Bleed from the Special Functions menu.
8. Bleed the base brake system.
9. Follow the scan tool directions until the desired brake pedal height is achieved.
10. If the bleed procedure is aborted, a malfunction exists. Perform the following steps before resuming the bleed

procedure:
– If a DTC is detected, refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code
(DTC) List and diagnose the appropriate DTC.
– If the brake pedal feels spongy, perform the conventional brake bleed procedure again.
11. When the desired pedal height is achieved, press the brake pedal in order to inspect for firmness.
12. Remove the scan tool.
13. Install the tire and wheel assemblies.
14. Inspect the brake fluid level.
15. Road test the vehicle while inspecting that the pedal remains high and firm.

GM TECH 2 Diagnostic tool – A quick word before buying on Obd2tool

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The GM Tech 2 diagnostic tool has been around since the 1980’s.  It has been the flagship diagnostic tool and programing device for many many years.  it continues to be a valuable part of the GM dealership stable because its quick, efficient, and works great!  Now that other diagnostic programs that are, for the most part, only economically  viable for GM dealership technicians to use (like Tech2WIN) the cost of Tech 2 has come down a little bit over years past.  It is because the Tech 2 has been around for as long as it has that it is such a copied and cloned unit.  Couple this to the advent of Obd2tool, allowing rip-off artists world wide to sell cloned duplicates, the glut of good people who want to work on their own cars and want a dealership level tool, and technicians who want to upgrade beyond a piece of crap generic scan tool for GM family cars, and what you are left with is a global marketplace where 95% of the stuff being sold here is a clone, or simply someone else’s headache!

All Tech 2’s are not considered equal. Tech 2 gives you unprecedented access to EVERY GM module and controller, provides the best and highest volume of vehicle data, and possesses the most bi-directional functionality of any diagnostic tool for GM family cars. There have been, however, a multitude of manufactures of Tech 2 over the almost 30 years it has been in production.  Very early Vetronix units had solder joint problems which caused random communication failures.  In addition to being an inconvenience, if this occurs during a programing event, you will be left with a garbage controller!  Later models are made by Bosch, who bought Vetronix.  They have cheapened the unit up so much that it is marginally better than a Korean clone.  As a matter of fact, most of the electronics are made in Asia or in Eastern Europe where most of the clones come from. This was done as a cost cutting measure.  The result is a slew of premature failures!  The units that reside in the “middle” time were made and marketed by others like Hewlett Packard and OTC.  These were the most reliable and durable units around.

Tech 2 is not only a diagnostic tool, it is also is capable of programing new and used programmable GM controllers, configuring functionality within modules and updating GM family cars with the most current programing.  You can gain access to programing on GM TIS on WEB website.  With very little effort, and cables that accommodate your type of PC, you can update or install programing in any GM family OBD II or CAN compatible vehicle.  Tech 2 can also be used on SAAB, Holden, Isuzu, even some Toyota vehicles with optional programing available through GM and accessible by anyone for weekly, monthly, or yearly subscription.

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A new Tech 2 unit retails for well over $4000.00.  Anyone who tries to sell you a new unit for less is selling you a clone that DOES NOT work on every GM car, IS NOT of any quality and has a high failure rate.  Clone Tech 2’s frequently destroy vehicle control modules, and are a complete and total waste of money!  A lot of people buy a Chinese or Korean clone, and have no idea they have a clone!  If they sell it to you, they didn’t know it was a Chinese or Korean clone.  This is a highly cloned tool and even the original manufacturer(s) built some low quality units.  Make sure of what your buying BEFORE YOU SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON IT. Clone scan tools are very easy to spot if you know exactly what your looking for!  On Tech 2, there are tell-tale signs of a tool being a clone.  Clone units DO NOT print on the unit that it is a clone.  Clone units DO NOT say “made in china” or “made in Korea” or “made in Poland” on them,  They say “Made in the United States.”  The idea is that THEY ARE CLONES and thus are lying to make you think your getting an authentic unit, when instead, your getting a huge piece of crap that is, literally, worth pennies!  There are hundreds of these clones out here on Obd2tool being sold by people all over the world.  There are private individuals who buy clones, either discover they have a clone and re-sell it as authentic, or have no idea its a clone and think its authentic.  They have no idea because they bought it, think they couldn’t figure out how to use it (when in reality, it didn’t work) and just re-sell it as authentic.  Either way, intentionally or nu-intentionality, you get stuck with it, and you may or may not know it until it burns out or destroys your cars computer costing you hundreds or thousands of dollars and untold hours and days of misery, just to save a few bucks!

To use a Tech 2 scan tool in this day and age, 90% of all software packages GM offers require a minimum 32 MB memory card.  A 10 MB card, although very useful for backup, data logging and flash programing, is useless for diagnostic programing for North American Operations (NAO), Saab, Isuzu, Suzuki and pretty much any of the other available software packages Tech 2 offers.

If you think that, just because your using a  Auto Scan ToolTech 2 for your personal use, you can buy a cheaper import unit, think again!  I see HUNDREDS of these units thrown on the scrap heap every year.  They cannot be repaired and are non-serviceable.  Not all of these units will accept GM programing, thus cannot be updated.  They are of grossly inferior quality and have an extraordinary failure rate, and damage more cars than I can express to you.
A couple ways to spot a clone:

If the Tech 2 your looking at has no production date on the inside cover for the software card on the top of the scan tool, its a clone.  If there is no date, your looking at a clone!
If the “VOID” warranty sticker is opaque in appearance and difficult to read, its a clone.
If the Tech 2 has little white stickers over the case half’s on each side with the word “VETRONIX” and Chinese symbols denoting a date, its a clone.
Most clones are being sold from Asian or European countries.  Why would anyone be selling an item that was built here, shipped over there, and than put up for sale over there, to ship back here?
Finally, there are PLENTY of people here in the United States selling clones!  They buy a few hundred of them, and un-load them on unsuspecting people calling them “slightly used” or surplus.  If they have very little feedback, or the feedback looks like it was written by a a foreigner, your likely looking at a clone.

90% of the units on Obd2tool are being sold by people who are intentionally selling you garbage, import clone units. They don’t print that they ARE clones, but they don’t print that they are NOT clones!  As long as their are ignorant people who are led only by the concept of saving a few pennies, there will always be clone items out here looking for an idiot to mate up with.  Of the other 10%, half of them are selling you a clone are have no idea they are selling you a clone because they have no idea what they have or they are un-loading an early or late domestically built model that they are trying to get off of because it has damaged their car or doesn’t work right most of the time.  Of that last 5% half of them are intentionally trying to rip you off!  You do the math!  Of one hundred Tech 2’s posted on Obd2tool, both new and used, maybe 3 to 5 are the genuine article and are high in quality.
If your going to buy something for thousands of dollars, buy it from someone who has the answers, knows the product and has priced it properly.  Please use my experience to educate yourself on what your buying before you go shopping for it, and form your own opinions.  Take advantage of this information to get what you want and get it for a good price.
No matter what you decide to do, thank you for looking in and I hope this information helps you get what you want.

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