BMW ICOM VS ICOM NEXT

I am looking to buy a good diagnostic tool for bmw, my question is:

which is the best, bmw icom or ICOM Next and why please? also important question is, if i buy icom next is needed to buy icom P for programming newer cars? as i see if buy bmw icom, should to buy also icom p, but i don’t know for icom next.

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Improved Functionality and Performance:

1. Gbit workshop LAN,backwards compatible
2. Preparation for Gbit LAN on vehicle OBD(cars do not yet supportthis and interface not yet defined,ICOM Next hardware adaptation will be necessary for future Gbit car interface,will cause adaptation costs)
3. Faster start-up times and high throughput
4. Through high-performance,low-power ARM SoCBMW ICOM NEXT A+B+C QC MARK
5. Improved handling
6. More flexible OBD cable
7. Lighted button for logs etc

BMW ICOM NEXT A+B+C Diadnostic Head Overview?

Functionally compatible to ICOM A2
Mechanical design similar ICOM A2
Backwards compatible to car adapters (ICOM B, C) and motorcycle adapters (ICOM D, E)

BMW ICOM NEXT A+B+C Specifications:

Zeroization of data on tamper detection
Secure supply chain assurance
Key storage using physically un-clonable function
CRI Pass-Through DPA Patent Portfolio
Advanced cryptographic Services

If you use BMW ICOM Next V2018.09 , it is better if you have computer as below:
1pc x BMW ICOM A2 Interface
1pc x BMW ICOM B Most
1pc x BMW 20pin Cable
1pc x USB Cable
1pc x OBD2 Cable
1pc x LAN Cable
1pc x NEW EVG7 DL46/HDD500GB/DDR4GB Diagnostic Controller Tablet PC

What is used for BMW G30 ECU flash

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Purpose: Need to flash a BWM G series G30

Puzzle: Is the ICOM Next mandatory or is the up to date ICOM 1st generation BMW ICOM Next from 2012 ok?
Can I flash NBT EVO with old ICOM?

Advice & Options:

1.

ENET cable would probably be better for you.

2.

I flashed NBT EVOs with old ICOM without problems.

3.

Flashed all Cars with Icom Next and Online Aos with DHCP over Router. Since that i have Never any Problems with NBT or other. Flash E/F/G with this Setup.

Note that Online Aos is the online version of the BMW software for Diagnostic, Programming any many other things.

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To answer your question
1st : you doesn’t need iCOM NEXT from OBD2TOOL to flash the G series…but It actually Lot better & save up your times because iCOM NEXT has build in Gigabit connection.
2nd : old iCOM working find. It just take a lot longer.

5.

Icom best any type , router I noticed w my setup I use desktop w 2 lan port and on a few f cars it actually faster then oem it programs up to 8 module same time w gigabit switch , and handle data lots faster than etnet cable and for certain modules the router is a must will crash hu high in kombi in a few others

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Any icom will work , but to be safe with f,g,i series vehicles , use a dedicated router as kafas huh and a few other modules will crash if you do not use a router it handles the switches for Ethernet as those modules use more than 1 path way , in short it uses all 4 two pair wires and without router not good , this has worked for me for some time now good luck. note my router does not connect to wan

Conclusion:

ICOM Next is the best option for G series, working better and faster than old BMW Diagnostic Tool BMW ICOM cables. It handles multiprogramming and coding quite nicely. Gets the job done much faster if flashing the complete vehicle. Also, another benefit to Next will be compatibility for future cars.

BMW E-Series Programming with ICOM ISTAP, not ISTA+

There are different systems for vehicle diagnosis (ISTA) and programming (ISTA/P) used. This means it was necessary to change systems several times when repairing a vehicle using software.

ISTA+ has been expanded so that all the required programming functions for the series F, G and I are integrated.

E-series vehicles still have to be programmed using BMW ICOM ISTA/P!

The functions relevant for programming can be accessed via the following menus:

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Vehicle treatment

1.Software update o Comfort – as per the suggested measures plan
o Advanced – with broadened scope
o Additional software (range of functions is not active yet)

2. Control unit replacement o Before exchange (preparation) – control unit read-out for the exchange
o After exchange (subsequent evaluation) – control unit configuration after exchange

3.Vehicle modification o Retrofit
o Conversion
o Conversion (only coding)
o Backfitting
o Immediate measures

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So, what for E series coding/programming?

For Exx- Series:
Interface = K+DCAN Cable (OBDII to USB) or ICOM
ECU Data Files = SP-Daten
NCS Expert = Coding Software
WinKFP = Programming (Flashing) Software
EDIABAS = Low-Level ECU Communication Software used by NCS Expert & WinKFP

For Coding, you need NCS Expert / SP-Daten for E-Series
All Diagnosis and Coding can be done with a cheap K+Dcan cable

For Programming (Flashing ECU’s with new Firmware), then you need ISTA/P for for E-Series, or you can use WinKFP for it. And you will need a BMW ICOM cable (ICOM A2/ICOM A3 or ICOM Next)

YOU HAVE TO KNOW before you buy ICOM A2 or ICOM A3 or ICOM Next:

ICOM Next vs the old ICOM

-> much faster in BMW F and G series ..
-> supports gigabit Ethernet too to be future proof, there currently is not gigabit Ethernet protocol defined yet for autos. Also it has USB3.0 instead of USB2.0 and a better wifi card.

So, Icom next a works much better.

BMW ICOM A+B+C vs ICOM A2

-> more stable during programming
-> be necessary for the future Gbit cars
-> faster start-up times and high throughput
-> through high-performance,low-power ARM SoC
-> improved handling
-> more flexible OBD cable
-> lighted button for logs

In sum, Icom next wins!

ICOM A3 vs ICOM NEXT

Both of these have the same hardware. None of them are clones of anything also. A3 is fully china version of ICOM, there is no original version looking like this crap. NEXT is just looking as genuine NEXT, but with old A1/A2 hardware inside, like A3.

I recommend buying an Icom next. It is priced roughly at 500 euro. Take in consideration that you will probably work on cars that are worth 30-40k euro or maybe more and if your chinese icom fails you even once, you will be spending a lot of money on a bricked ecu.

ICOM A vs ICOM A2 vs ICOM A3

Modified ICOM A2 for vehicles with OBD access receives a significantly more powerful processor and more storage capacity. And robust aluminium case will help to avoid damage when using in harsh environments. It works better in cooling, runs faster and works more stable, not easier broken than older ICOM A.

ICOM A3 can program all units for all BMW series expect media system, and work more stable and has stronger compatibility than ICOM A2, A1.

In short, ICOM NEXT A+B+C works perfect; it’s the best option.