GM Tech2 Review Reached a positive solution

This was my order of GM Tech 2 Scan Tool with TIS2000 software:

Ship to: United States

This is how GM Tech 2 looks out of the box:

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Turned on:

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The following 3 paragraphs are what I mail to obd2tool.com:
I tested device and it works well. Problem is the screen. I believe for return I would have to send back and pay for shipping. This would take a long time and I have work to do using the tool.

Right now I am using a laptop connected so I can see the full screen

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I would rather do partial refund or try replacing the screen myself.

Will you do a partial refund?

Can you send or help me find a replacement screen?

I have been happy so far with obdii365.com so far. The price, service and shipping speed was good.

I hope we can reach a positive solution.

Finally, obd2tool.com ship me a new package.

Just want to let you know, I finally took the time to really test out the replacement I was sent and it appears to work perfectly.

One small issue is that I was sent a GM PC Card and not a Saab one. I tried to write the GM Card in my laptop to Saab software but I ended up damaging the card. It was my fault. I know that I could have contacted you for help and you would have taken care of me.

I was able to find another Saab Card and get it working so I am very happy now. I do not need any more help.

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My order of GM Tech2 Diagnostic Scanner with TIS2000 Software

This was my order of GM Tech2 Diagnostic Scanner with TIS2000 Software:

Order Date: Jan 1, 2019
Ship to: United States

This is how GM Tech2 looks out of the box:

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Turned on:

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The following 3 paragraphs are what I mail to OBD2TOOL:
I tested device and it works well. Problem is the screen. I believe for return I would have to send back and pay for shipping. This would take a long time and I have work to do using the tool.

Right now I am using a laptop connected so I can see the full screen

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I would rather do partial refund or try replacing the screen myself.
Will you do a partial refund?
Can you send or help me find a replacement screen?
I have been happy so far with OBD2TOOL so far. The price, service and shipping speed was good.
I hope we can reach a positive solution.

Finally, OBD2TOOL ship me a new package.

Just want to let you know, I finally took the time to really test out the replacement I was sent and it appears to work perfectly.

One small issue is that I was sent a GM PC Card and not a Saab one. I tried to write the GM Card in my laptop to Saab software but I ended up damaging the card. It was my fault. I know that I could have contacted you for help and you would have taken care of me.

I was able to find another Saab Card and get it working so I am very happy now. I do not need any more help.

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Which Windows OS is best for TIS2000 install 64 bit possible

BEFORE installing the TIS2000 Software… it will work just fine. Remember that THIS machine deserves to be a Dedicated Computer… with nothing else in the way of any after-market Software that might interfere with the installation, operation and behavior of the TIS2000 Software… Before…During and After the CD(s) are installed.

TIS2000 software: (GM, Opel)
TIS2000 software: (Saab)

READ THE CONTENTS OF BOTH TIS2000 DISKS BEFORE YOU START THIS INSTALLATION… THEN PRINT AND READ ALL OF THE “README” FILES FIRST… AS YOU WILL NEED TO DO SOME MINOR CONFIG OR DLL FILES EDIT(S) THAT JUST INVOLVES A SIMPLE “COPY-REPLACE” OF ONE FILE IN PARTICULAR… and so… not having to stop and browse about the HD DURING the installation to sort this out will help ease your mind about this. Perform that File R&R AFTER a Successful Installation of TIS2000 Suite onto your HP Laptop.

Prior to the TIS2000 Installation, You should go into your “Devices” Menu and Disable any and all of your Wireless and Hard Line RJ-45 Ethernet Components… you do not have to remove them… just Disable them all, While you are in there… make sure that your Serial Port and all Com Ports (Com1, Com2, Com3, etc…) are ENABLED and make a note of their order and status as being Enabled… both in the Devices Section AND in your BIOS, too! (Very Important Thing To Do). Unless you intend to pay ACdelco for a TISTIDS (TISWEB) Subscription for the very Latest Models of GM Vehicles… There is No Reason to have to Go On Line when using your “GYMKO” Scanner for ordinary PCM and Module Updates.

The reason the later (64) Bit Versions of Windows 7, 8 and 10 Flavors will NOT work for the TIS2000 Installation … is because they no longer support (16) Bit and (32) Bit Program Installer Applications without performing some very exotic programming leaps through hoops to awaken that feature… Hence… Windows XP-Pro SP3… is the EOL for the OS able to recognize the 32-cum-16 Bit installation requirements involved.

And just to give a better explanation of What all these limitations involve…and WHY they exist… Way Back When… GM , ACDElco and Hewlett Packard put their collective coconuts together to transition from the Old Tech1 over to the “NEW” GM Tech 2… and some Short-Sighted, Penny-Pinching Jackass on their team decided he could Brown Nose “The Corp” little by saving a Few Pennies on The Dollar short-sheeting the need for an Updated Binary Software Installer Application Layer…which followed on the heals of the Tech1. That conversation sounded something like THIS:

“Look… There’s no sense in spending any more money on Software or Technical Support than we really need to… so we’re going to use the older 16 Bit Model of the Application Installer for New Professional Diagnostic Tool TIS2000 Software…. Just like the Old Tech1 had … and we’ll save some Money doing it that way…”

I hope this long and drawn out explanation edifies on why there was a break point for the Windows OS… beginning and ending with the only 32 Bit and 64 Bit flavors that would tolerate this ‘installation regression’. They simply did not want to pay Programmers to prepare and have the Binary Hexadecimal Data String Read/Right Mechanisms updated using newer (32) Bit Code for the 1996 and later flavors of Windows Operating System.

GM MDI Clone Scan Tool Unboxing Review and Setup ACDelco TDS Intro

This article goes thru unboxing and setup of the best quality GM Multiple Diagnostic Interface (MDI) clone / replica example, comparison with the prior generation GM Tech2 scan tool, and how to reflash (recover) the MDI device firmware and configure the settings using the Bosch MDI Manager for Windows 7 and up, and finally an intro overview of the ACDelco TIS2Web / TDS website subscription options / features.

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The GM MDI replaced the Tech2 as the J2534 dealership scan tool starting with the 2008 model year, though there was some overlap with existing models thru 2013 when the Tech2 was finally no longer supported for new vehicles. For new models introduced from 2010 and later, the GM MDI or MDI 2 are the only diagnostic and calibration programming tools utilized at your GM dealer.

The MDI is not compatible with the legacy DVD based TIS2000 and only works with TIS2Web online, where you can use either SPS or the Global Diagnostic System (GDS) 2 online software. You can also subscribe to the Tech2Win software at www.acdelcotds.com which is a Tech2 emulator for working on vehicles prior to the 2008 model year in lieu of a physical Tech2 tool.

The reviewed Car Scanner MDI knock-off / clone / replica tool has a S/N of 22129579 (all of them from this factory have the same serial number) and supports all Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, GMC, Hummer, Opel, Vauxhall, Isuzu, Saab, Daewoo and Holden makes and models of the applicable years. I purchased it on obd2tool.com

How to Bleed ABS on Corvette with GM Tech II

Bleeding ABS on Corvette with GM Tech 2 by following the next procedure.

Perform a manual or pressure bleeding procedure. If the desired brake pedal height results are not achieved, perform the automated bleed procedure below.
The procedure cycles the system valves and runs the pump in order to purge the air from the secondary circuits normally closed off during normal base brake operation and bleeding. The automated bleed procedure is recommended when air ingestion is suspected in the secondary circuits, or when the BPMV has been replaced.

Automated Bleed Procedure
Notice: The Auto Bleed Procedure may be terminated at any time during the process by pressing the EXIT button. No further Scan Tool prompts pertaining to the Auto Bleed procedure will be given. After exiting the bleed procedure, relieve bleed pressure and disconnect bleed equipment per manufacturer’s instructions. Failure to properly relieve pressure may result in spilled brake fluid causing damage to components and painted surfaces.
1. Raise the vehicle on a suitable support.
2. Remove all four tire and wheel assemblies.
3. Inspect the brake system for leaks and visual damage. Refer to Brake Fluid Loss or Symptoms – Hydraulic Brakes. Repair or replace as needed.
4. Inspect the battery state of charge.
5. Install a scan tool.
6. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
7. With the scan tool, establish communications with the EBCM. Select Special Functions. Select Automated Bleed from the Special Functions menu.
8. Bleed the base brake system.
9. Follow the scan tool directions until the desired brake pedal height is achieved.
10. If the bleed procedure is aborted, a malfunction exists. Perform the following steps before resuming the bleed

procedure:
– If a DTC is detected, refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code
(DTC) List and diagnose the appropriate DTC.
– If the brake pedal feels spongy, perform the conventional brake bleed procedure again.
11. When the desired pedal height is achieved, press the brake pedal in order to inspect for firmness.
12. Remove the scan tool.
13. Install the tire and wheel assemblies.
14. Inspect the brake fluid level.
15. Road test the vehicle while inspecting that the pedal remains high and firm.

GM TECH 2 Diagnostic tool – A quick word before buying on Obd2tool

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The GM Tech 2 diagnostic tool has been around since the 1980’s.  It has been the flagship diagnostic tool and programing device for many many years.  it continues to be a valuable part of the GM dealership stable because its quick, efficient, and works great!  Now that other diagnostic programs that are, for the most part, only economically  viable for GM dealership technicians to use (like Tech2WIN) the cost of Tech 2 has come down a little bit over years past.  It is because the Tech 2 has been around for as long as it has that it is such a copied and cloned unit.  Couple this to the advent of Obd2tool, allowing rip-off artists world wide to sell cloned duplicates, the glut of good people who want to work on their own cars and want a dealership level tool, and technicians who want to upgrade beyond a piece of crap generic scan tool for GM family cars, and what you are left with is a global marketplace where 95% of the stuff being sold here is a clone, or simply someone else’s headache!

All Tech 2’s are not considered equal. Tech 2 gives you unprecedented access to EVERY GM module and controller, provides the best and highest volume of vehicle data, and possesses the most bi-directional functionality of any diagnostic tool for GM family cars. There have been, however, a multitude of manufactures of Tech 2 over the almost 30 years it has been in production.  Very early Vetronix units had solder joint problems which caused random communication failures.  In addition to being an inconvenience, if this occurs during a programing event, you will be left with a garbage controller!  Later models are made by Bosch, who bought Vetronix.  They have cheapened the unit up so much that it is marginally better than a Korean clone.  As a matter of fact, most of the electronics are made in Asia or in Eastern Europe where most of the clones come from. This was done as a cost cutting measure.  The result is a slew of premature failures!  The units that reside in the “middle” time were made and marketed by others like Hewlett Packard and OTC.  These were the most reliable and durable units around.

Tech 2 is not only a diagnostic tool, it is also is capable of programing new and used programmable GM controllers, configuring functionality within modules and updating GM family cars with the most current programing.  You can gain access to programing on GM TIS on WEB website.  With very little effort, and cables that accommodate your type of PC, you can update or install programing in any GM family OBD II or CAN compatible vehicle.  Tech 2 can also be used on SAAB, Holden, Isuzu, even some Toyota vehicles with optional programing available through GM and accessible by anyone for weekly, monthly, or yearly subscription.

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A new Tech 2 unit retails for well over $4000.00.  Anyone who tries to sell you a new unit for less is selling you a clone that DOES NOT work on every GM car, IS NOT of any quality and has a high failure rate.  Clone Tech 2’s frequently destroy vehicle control modules, and are a complete and total waste of money!  A lot of people buy a Chinese or Korean clone, and have no idea they have a clone!  If they sell it to you, they didn’t know it was a Chinese or Korean clone.  This is a highly cloned tool and even the original manufacturer(s) built some low quality units.  Make sure of what your buying BEFORE YOU SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON IT. Clone scan tools are very easy to spot if you know exactly what your looking for!  On Tech 2, there are tell-tale signs of a tool being a clone.  Clone units DO NOT print on the unit that it is a clone.  Clone units DO NOT say “made in china” or “made in Korea” or “made in Poland” on them,  They say “Made in the United States.”  The idea is that THEY ARE CLONES and thus are lying to make you think your getting an authentic unit, when instead, your getting a huge piece of crap that is, literally, worth pennies!  There are hundreds of these clones out here on Obd2tool being sold by people all over the world.  There are private individuals who buy clones, either discover they have a clone and re-sell it as authentic, or have no idea its a clone and think its authentic.  They have no idea because they bought it, think they couldn’t figure out how to use it (when in reality, it didn’t work) and just re-sell it as authentic.  Either way, intentionally or nu-intentionality, you get stuck with it, and you may or may not know it until it burns out or destroys your cars computer costing you hundreds or thousands of dollars and untold hours and days of misery, just to save a few bucks!

To use a Tech 2 scan tool in this day and age, 90% of all software packages GM offers require a minimum 32 MB memory card.  A 10 MB card, although very useful for backup, data logging and flash programing, is useless for diagnostic programing for North American Operations (NAO), Saab, Isuzu, Suzuki and pretty much any of the other available software packages Tech 2 offers.

If you think that, just because your using a  Auto Scan ToolTech 2 for your personal use, you can buy a cheaper import unit, think again!  I see HUNDREDS of these units thrown on the scrap heap every year.  They cannot be repaired and are non-serviceable.  Not all of these units will accept GM programing, thus cannot be updated.  They are of grossly inferior quality and have an extraordinary failure rate, and damage more cars than I can express to you.
A couple ways to spot a clone:

If the Tech 2 your looking at has no production date on the inside cover for the software card on the top of the scan tool, its a clone.  If there is no date, your looking at a clone!
If the “VOID” warranty sticker is opaque in appearance and difficult to read, its a clone.
If the Tech 2 has little white stickers over the case half’s on each side with the word “VETRONIX” and Chinese symbols denoting a date, its a clone.
Most clones are being sold from Asian or European countries.  Why would anyone be selling an item that was built here, shipped over there, and than put up for sale over there, to ship back here?
Finally, there are PLENTY of people here in the United States selling clones!  They buy a few hundred of them, and un-load them on unsuspecting people calling them “slightly used” or surplus.  If they have very little feedback, or the feedback looks like it was written by a a foreigner, your likely looking at a clone.

90% of the units on Obd2tool are being sold by people who are intentionally selling you garbage, import clone units. They don’t print that they ARE clones, but they don’t print that they are NOT clones!  As long as their are ignorant people who are led only by the concept of saving a few pennies, there will always be clone items out here looking for an idiot to mate up with.  Of the other 10%, half of them are selling you a clone are have no idea they are selling you a clone because they have no idea what they have or they are un-loading an early or late domestically built model that they are trying to get off of because it has damaged their car or doesn’t work right most of the time.  Of that last 5% half of them are intentionally trying to rip you off!  You do the math!  Of one hundred Tech 2’s posted on Obd2tool, both new and used, maybe 3 to 5 are the genuine article and are high in quality.
If your going to buy something for thousands of dollars, buy it from someone who has the answers, knows the product and has priced it properly.  Please use my experience to educate yourself on what your buying before you go shopping for it, and form your own opinions.  Take advantage of this information to get what you want and get it for a good price.
No matter what you decide to do, thank you for looking in and I hope this information helps you get what you want.

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How to use the GM Tech2 scan tool to perform GM SPS

Topic: GM SPS Programming: Tech2 Tool Pass Thru Mode ECU TIS2Web TDS Calibration Update
How to use the Tech 2 Scan Tool to perform GM SPS Programming in what is known as Pass-Thru or Legacy Pass Thru mode for calibration updates. This can be for the ECU or any programmable module in the vehicle, such as the EBCM, TCM, or Radio that you may want to reflash.

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I’m going to show you a little bit newer technology. So we’re still with the tech two and at this point I’ve pre-connected some things up here I’ve got connected to the diagnostic interface this the unit accessory for the tech two called a candy module a controller area network diagnostic interface. So this connects to the vehicle and then it connects to the tech 2 and then in the tech 2.

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If we were to go into our SPS system what I’m gonna try to show you here. This particular vehicle work we’re working on right now is a 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt.

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If we go to request. What we’re gonna find out really quick is after we say Chevrolet well. We don’t have anything newer than 2007 that we can select. Because this 2000 which is what the remote mode is set up for.

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So how can we update the firmware on the modules for this 2009 well we’re gonna have to go to this to web on the internet. So I’ve got this cable already connected to a laptop over here and we’re going to go ahead and show you how to stew web works which replaced this 2000. So I’m gonna set this guy right next to this laptop sitting on the passenger seat here.

Warning: Pay very close attention to the instructions around power cabling and battery readiness as a power fluctuation during an SPS programming procedure can permanently damage a controller module.

This applies to the genuine Vetronix, HP or Bosch built Tech2 as well as high quality Chinese clones equally and for all makes under General Motors such as Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Hummer, Saturn, Opel, Vauxhall, and Saab.. The programming is illustrated using a 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt LS and the www.acdelcotds.com subscription service features using a Techline PC using Tech2 legacy passthru mode to update the Radio.

Applicable to model year 2008 thru 2013, which is when the Tech2 ended and was fully replaced by the GM Multiple Diagnostic Interface tool, or GM MDI and MDI 2 and TIS 2 Web subscriptions. This method is available with TIS2000 for GM vehicles older than 2008 as well.

 

I recommend that you buy gm tech2 on Obd2 tool website. They are cheap, logistics is fast, and after-sales service is also very good. I have been using it for a year and there is no problem with the quality of the product.

Anyone know GM TECH2 and MID diagnostic tools

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What is the difference between the TECH 2 hand held tool and the newer MID interface you use with a laptop? From what I read, the MID will replace the TECH2 but currently it doesn’t diagnose, just program. I need to diagnose a few issues on a 2007 Silverado, 2012 Cruze and 2013 Cruze flood car. The clones are under $400 so it might be time to get one.

The Cheap $224.00 to $400.00 Tech 2s, made in China and don’t even bother having updates installed.They will crash when when updates are installed.Overall the clone Tech 2s are good for what you are doing and are good as the real version now made by Bosch.The real version was made by Vetronix,Bosch bought out Vetronix in 2003.Also make sure it has the Candi box with it,a must for these CAN vehicles.

The last update for the tech 2 has already come out so, I would think about buying a new one unless you work on a lot of GM products.

Depending on the vehicle you’re working on, the GM MDI (Multiple Diagnostic Interface) will do everything a Tech 2 will do but, you’ll need a laptop and GDS software. Going forward from the 2013 model year, the MDI with a laptop will be the GM Diagnostic tool.

General Motors (GM) has launched Global Professional Diagnostic Tool (GDS 2) – its next generation, PC-based vehicle diagnostic system. GDS 2 is a PC-based platform that builds on the original GDS application, but also incorporates several new features, based on technician input. Combined with a Multiple Diagnostic Interface (MDI), GDS 2 provides an exclusive, effective and efficient system for the diagnosis of all the automaker’s new Global Architecture vehicles.

GM Tech2 Scan Tool pass-through vs go-between

For program a module with GM Tech2 scan tools,there are two methods. One is pass-through and the other is using the Tech 2 as a go-between.

How to do?Here we go:

1.The pass-through is to use with a laptop in the vehicle and it just uses the Tech 2 as the connection between. This is the fastest and easiest way to do it.
That is, the data are directly downloaded from the PC to the ECU in the vehicle.
Although the GM Tech 2 is still necessary in the mode, the data entry and the download control is done directly at the pc. Altogether, the method is faster, and it is recommended when a pc with TIS2000 software is within 3m of a vehicle.

1.  Connect Tech 2 to the vehicle.
2.  Connect Tech 2 to the PC switch on Tech 2.
3.  Start TIS 2000 on the PC.
4.  Select the icon ‘Service Programming System’ (Fig. 1) on the TIS2000 start page.
5.  Start TIS 2000 on the PC.
6.  On the screen ‘Select Diagnostic Tool and Programming Process’ (See picture below) make a selection for

***Pass-Thru mode
***the reprogramming of an ECU that was not exchanged or the replacement/programming of a new ECU
***the ECU location.
Then clock ‘Next’ button.

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2.The go-between method is for when you can’t bring the computer into the vehicle and uses the gm Tech2 scanner as a go-between. You connect the Professional Diagnostic Tool Tech 2 to the vehicle and download the module information that you want to program. Then you disconnect, run to the computer running Tis2000, connect it to the computer and download the programming information for that module, disconnect again and run back to the vehicle, connect it and it automatically programs the module. It can take a long time depending on the module (PCM is the longest).
Have fun in GM Tech II programming!
Good luck!

Should I buy GM MDI instead of Tech 2 clone

The Tech2 clone is definitely fine, but I think people looking for a good tool now should really look at an MDI clone instead.

The Future of the Tech 2

The Tech 2 remains an essential tool through at least the 2010 model year. The GM MDI will not support past models when its diagnostic capabilities are introduced. And, the Tech2 will continue to be needed to diagnose all vehicles fromprevious model years. Remote programming with the Tech 2 will continue to be supported for use on all 2007 and previous vehicles.Additional information will be supplied in future.

HOW WILL THE G-M MDI BE USED?

The new G-M MDI can be used only in the Pass-Thru method. This means you can use it as your programming tool, while your Tech 2/CANdi remains available for diagnostics and other duties.

I have issues with it, however:

The GM MDI will not support past models when its diagnostic capabilities are introduced.
I’m not sure what this means. The GM MDI WILL clearly support past model years with the Tech2win applications. So I’m not sure what this statement actually means. The only thing I can think of is that GM will remove pass thru support at a later date, but since its all been cracked already, this shouldn’t matter.

The new G-M MDI can be used only in the Pass-Thru method. This means you can use it as your programming tool, while your Tech 2/CANdi remains available for diagnostics and other duties.
This statement implies that the pass thru method is a bad thing. Considering the Tech2win application works perfectly with EVERY function on all GM vehicles as far back as 1996, I don’t understand what this is really saying. It implies that you can’t do diagnostic troubleshooting using pass-thru, when in fact you can.

As far as I can tell from my testing, this is a basic sales pitch in order to encourage people to keep the Tech2 as well as purchase a MDI2 unit – both of which are incredibly expensive if purchased legitimately through GM.

In reality, you don’t need a  Obd2 scan tool Tech2 and a MDI2. An MDI interface is more than enough especially on our older cars like the C5 corvette which GM will unlikely ever release further PCM upgrades for given the fact they were discontinued over 10 years ago.